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Goodbye DA, keep your kittens bunnies and boobs

Journal Entry: Thu Dec 1, 2011, 5:10 AM
Lately i was looking for an alternative website that is interested in ART and not in public relations, facebook-type community activities, and whatever else DA represents the past years, and its going from bad to worse...

im looking the popular pages everyday,,,, and.... WHAT THE FUCK ??? what is this crap???? who the fuck votes for that shit?? where are the people that actually make art, and not commercial shit? why the fuck are everyday a couple of kitten pictures of ZERO quality in the popular pages?? CHANGE YOUR FUCKING RANKING SYSTEM!!!!!

im checking the DDs everyday... what is this shit??? are those the best artworks of ths website?? if yes i dont want to be part of it.... if no.. who put those uneducated teenagers volunteers to give DDs to their friends?? this supposed to be the front window of the website.. the best of the best... if you except some of the admins that realy do great job, the others are below average... its embarrasing! arent you embarrased officials of DA ???

Does any of the DA officials really care about art, or just to make some bucks??? Many of good artist of this community are leaving...

This community had a few hundred thousand members... and all we see is the SHITTY work of 20-30 of them everyday in the front pages... everyfucking day the same people the same artworks the same quality... below zero, boring and common

a few months ago i had written this journal ---> fav.me/d3rgwlr ,some officials were trying to make DA even WORSE... read it if you havent

and then check the popular pages of www.500px.com ... check the editor choices (lets say their DDs) Do you see any difference??? YES! YES I DO!!! the main difference is that in DA i turn 10 pages to find one good piece of art, and in 500px i turn 10 pages to find only good ones, and just a couple of average



so.... this is my 500px account --> 500px.com/ShotbyViT you can follow me there, because i will not be that active in DA... of course i will check ,and post new things also here, because its a shame for those millions of views, and those couple of hunder thousands pageviews and my watchers, but if you really like photography.... what are you doing in DA?? you need hours to search to find good stuff here, this is a website for 15years old kids mostly to vote for kittens bunnies and boobs (and that paper box character that i dont know why the fuck gets so many favs)

my advice to DA officials....
1. change your ranking/voting system it doesnt work.... be more elitist... its art... underage kids cannot be responsible for saying what is good art (also people with no education, or people that are here just to see naked women)... think about it
2. Dont let anyone make a group, we are full of groups, they slow down all the system, because to be popular you have to put your photo to 120983210198 groups ,and this doesnt work!! FUCK GROUPS ! 99% of them are the same. Make some official groups, with respected artists to run them, lets see good stuff.... this will make your servers work better
3. Dont let people that have no taste for art be volunteers and give DDs ... i think for obvious reasons...
4. try less subcategories...
5. make new ways to expose art, those shitty thumbnails make everyone try to shoot square so it looks better in the galleries (because the thumbnail is bigger), and people would vote for them easily, horizontal pictures are handicapped...
6. use your fine artists.... make them useful for those who want to learn...

i could think of more but who cares... they dont for sure

follow me on 500px --> 500px.com/ShotbyViT
my facebook page --> www.facebook.com/shotbyvit
my website (not cemplete yet) --> www.shotbyvit.com

and i would probably try fotogy but its still in beta version, im checking on it ...

  • Listening to: silence
  • Reading: still
  • Watching: the trains go by
  • Playing: dead
  • Eating: dust
  • Drinking: always
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Ragnar949 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
They care about bucks. That's pretty much it.

I generally agree with you, but with an exception, many of those kids (they usually are) that put up the kitties (let's say) are subject challenged. I have seen a couple who have progressed, the shots may not be of high quality technically but are obviously trying to improve. We all start as beginners (I am still one). However you are exactly right on what's wrong with "Popularity" and how it's achieved. I think it is a disservice to them. "Oh people love my kitties (I have nothing against kitty shots, I've seen some good ones) I must be doing it right." How are you going to challenge yourself and get better if you think what you do is wonderful because the populace says so?

low quality nudes--or rather snapshot boobs and crotches have no place here or anywhere. They are popular with the pervs that only come here for that. They don't even have good taste.

I'd like to see DA get rid of the "popular" thing altogether.
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elK08 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
500px.com is a free page ?
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Piddling Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Professional
yes, you can also pay to have premium account, but normal account offers you everything u need
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AlexNagiPhotography Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
You are so damn right dude
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MJWilliam Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Well said. I've also noticed an interesting trend where the same exact people keep getting DDs approximately every three months. Not that some of them don't deserve it, but come on... And don't even get me started on countless sticks with tits. :disbelief:
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guillegarcia Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
well, i totally agree with you. I just wrote yesterday about it i my journal
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RoCueto Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
deviantart doesn't care about artists.
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nikongriffin Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional Photographer
Couldn't have said it better myself, and even if I did it wouldn't carry the weight of someone with your stature in the community. I was wondering why I haven't seen anything from you in a while so I stopped by your profile. Now I know.
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Piddling Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011  Professional
dont worry, im still checking here, and i am in touch with my watchers and friends, i just use it as facebook more, since thats what the owners of this -supposed to be artistic- community wants. Im not going to spend my time searching for art and inspiration, and im not going to post art that often, for this i have my website, and my 500px account, and ofcourse facebook... why to give money to this people here that do nothing for art ?
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nikongriffin Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011  Professional Photographer
I'm following you on 500px. The quality there is astounding and, more importantly, inspirational. Although obviously I'm not objective I would put myself in the top 10% of people who post photos here (I REFUSE to use the word 'photographer'). Over there I'm in the bottom 10% of what I've seen (although one of my nudes ranked a 92 on the first day!).
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